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Bio
Elias Messinas
Architect, Environmental Consultant
Founder & Chairman, ECOWEEK
Graduate of Yale School of Architecture and the National Technical University of Athens, Dr. Elias Messinas is a Greek-born architect and environmental consultant presently based in Aegina and Jerusalem, specializing in sustainable design, ‘green’ Architecture and environmental planning and consulting in Greece, Cyprus, and the Middle East. He is recipient of grants from – among others - Getty Grant Program and Graham Foundation. Dr. Messinas is the founder, Chairman and coordinator of the international environmental NGO ECOWEEK based and active in Europe and the Middle East.
:: Photo information and credits:
1 > Elias with Shigeru Ban and the Ambassador of Japan in Greece in 2009
photo courtecy © ECOWEEK 2009
2 > Elias with Ken Yeang and landscape architect Julie Bargmann at ECOWEEK 2008 in Athens, Greece
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3 > ECOWEEK workshops in 2010
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4 > ECOWEEK participants visiting the New Acropolis Museum in Athens in 2009
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5 > ECOWEEK workshops in 2009
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6 > ECOWEEK workshops in 2010
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7 > Private residence in Plakakia, Aegina
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8 > Private residence in Lefki, Aegina. The house is cooled and heated by geothermal heat pump
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09 > Private residence in Lefki, Aegina. The house is cooled and heated by geothermal heat pump
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10 > Private residence in Livadi, Aegina
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11 > ECOWEEK participants visiting a recycling plant in Athens, Greece in 2009
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12 > ECOWEEK participants visiting a wind farm in the Attica region, Greece in 2009
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Interview Date: 28-03-2011
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-----------------------------------------------------What is the importance of Architectural Tourism? What is the importance of traveling, especially for Architects and humans in general?
Traveling is very important both for Architects and everyone basically. Especially for architects it is important because Architects can see different places, learn about different cultures, meet different people and also they can see and experience buildings in other places. This is very important for our education and also for becoming better in the buildings we design.
Le Corbusier used to say that the camera is for idlers, it’s the eye for the idlers, meaning that when an architect is traveling he cannot just go round and take pictures like everybody else. He has to sketch, he has to try and experience the place. When Le Corbusier came to Greece, it took him about one or two days before getting to the Acropolis because he didn’t feel ready for the experience of visiting the Parthenon, which for him was one of the most important pieces of Architecture ever. So architects have to experience architecture, like we expect our clients to do that. So, it’s very important to visit places and to experience places, so that we can make our work better.
Now, for the general public, when you travel, you open up. You become more sensitive about people, about places, about situations. But the problem is that a lot of people like and prefer to travel in groups. So, when they travel in groups, they don’t actually expose themselves to the city and to the place, but they stay within the group. So, whatever they need, they ask the tour operator, they want to go somewhere, they ask the tour operator. They don’t go out to ask the people of the city, to try and communicate, to try to connect. I think that it’s the same thing with buildings. People sometimes just go and take pictures of the buildings. They don’t experience the buildings. So, they may say that they were in Italy, in Spain, in Turkey, but they end up coming back with a lot of photographs but without enough experience. So, it doesn’t really matter who’s traveling, they have to merge in the place and experience the place.
What do you think is the added value that architecture creates within a city?
Cities are basically made out of architecture. If you look at the way most cities present themselves, they usually show a building, like Athens would show the Parthenon, Paris would show the Eiffel Tower, whether it’s engineering or architecture it doesn’t really matter. But it’s buildings, very important buildings, landmarks of cities. So, cities need the landmarks, like Rome needs the big churches to connect within the fabric of the city. But cities also need a good fabric.
For example, in Greece since the 1970s, when there was a big boom of reconstruction, rebuilding the cities, a lot of the traditional urban fabric was destroyed, because they thought “We need to house more people, we have to develop, we have to make bigger buildings, taller buildings, denser construction…”. But that really destroyed the fabric. So, in one hand, architecture pieces are important, but on the other hand the urban fabric that is preserved, is also very important.
What exactly is the ‘ECOWEEK’ and what is the scope of its activities?
ECOWEEK is an NGO. It started in Greece in 2005. Our mission was to raise environmental awareness and to get people involved in and understand that an environmental solution, what’s good for the environment is also good for them. And it’s also usually more financially sensible. In the long term, it’s cheaper to make something ecological than not do it ecological.
We were trying to raise awareness because in Greece in 2005 ecology was not so exposed, not so common, like it is today. I think Greece has made big steps in the last five years. So, ECOWEEK evolved, from being a local event in Aegina, where we started, to becoming basically an event that is like a conference with workshops, that involves young people, it empowers young people, it teaches young people, it brings together young professionals with experts, with established professionals. And the idea is to promote co-operation, working together and also meet different cultures.
So, ECOWEEK basically has been evolving for the past 4-5 years and has become active also in Cyprus, in the Middle-East, we work in Israel and Palestine, and also this year we started in Italy, in Romania and we hope to go to other places as well. But the idea is not to come to a place and say “Look, we know how it should be done” or “We know to tell you what to do”. It’s basically learning from the place, learning from the people and involving and creating the sense of co-operation, this platform for co-operation. This is basically what ECOWEEK does.
ECOWEEK 2011 theme is ‘URBAN COMMUNITIES + GREEN ARCHITECTURE’. How did you come up with this theme and what do you intend to produce during this year’s workshops?
We know that the population is moving more towards the cities and we know what kind of problems are created in the cities where too many people try to find a job in the city, trying to find the easy way of life in the cities. So, this is why we called it URBAN COMMUNITIES. Because we feel that it is possible to run an ecological way of life in the suburbs, or in nature, but it’s harder to do it in the city.
And a lot of people say that cities are ecological because they are dense. But density is probably the only reason why cities are ecological. They pollute, create a lot of garbage, they take a lot of resources like water coming from other places where they need it… So cities in the way they are built today, they are not really sustainable. This is why in every city we go we try to work with the mayor, with the local government, to try and use the platform of the workshops as a resource for the city. It’s not that we’re doing projects that stay on a shelf, or that nobody makes any use of them. The idea is to run the workshops with projects that would be beneficial to the place.
This year, we’re in Thessaloniki, which is one of the most amazing cities in the world. It’s a city that was destroyed by a fire in 1917, it was redesigned by Ernest Hébrard in 1918 and it has an incredible plan, incredible public spaces. The architecture has suffered over the past 40 years; a lot of nice buildings have been destroyed. But, the city has a great basis to develop in a sustainable way. And of course, it’s got the waterfront, an incredible front to the Thermaic golf.
So, it’s a great opportunity for the young architects and the designers and the landscape architects to work within the context of Thessaloniki. It’s a great resource, to learn from it and to try to give new ideas. So, we have groups from the Technical University in Berlin, who are working on sites of the city, we have other groups from Greece, from other countries, from Sweden, from Italy, from lots of different places, who are all working on different parts in Thessaloniki. We expect the mayor to come on Saturday and we’ll present to them the ideas that the students came up with and there will be a nice discussion about what they could do with these ideas.
What is the importance of Architectural events, like ECOWEEK, worldwide? What are the profits for a city holding such kind of major events?
Young people are an incredible resource. Thessaloniki is a city of young people, it’s got about 220 000 to 250 000 students. So, trying to generate ideas, brainstorm and empower all this incredible resource of young people, I believe is an incredible benefit to the city. This is where we’re trying to head to. This is an idea that was actually born in Israel, in a workshop in the Middle-East, where for the first time we asked one city to give a project. That was last year. So, they told us “We have a street in the old city; maybe you can give us ideas on how to make it a green street”.
The students worked on this idea and we had important people like Michael Sorkin from New York, Omar Yousef who is a Palestinian architect from Jerusalem, Matti Kones from Israel and they all worked together with the students and they produced incredible ideas. So, other cities came to us and said “Well, we would like to be part of this, maybe next year we’ll give you a project”.
This is how we came to Thessaloniki this year. We told them we’re coming, we have all these young people from Thessaloniki and from abroad coming, we have these important people coming, give us a project and we’ll design for you, we’ll give you ideas. I think that any city, whether it’s going to be Milan in September, Romania in November, or back in the Middle-East in February, this is material that can really not help but benefit the city.
Does Architecture as a profession need empowerment? In which ways should this be done?
Architects are by education supposed to learn a lot of things and because of their artistic inclination I think they are also very creative. So, I think that we have an incredible base of people who could be very beneficial to a community, to a city, to a country. This is something Hassan Fathy from Egypt, who I met in Cairo in 1989, said. He said that young people have to stop looking at magazines. They have to go out to the city and look at their communities, and try to help the communities.
In a way, in order to do that you have to empower people, you have to give them opportunities, you have to set a basis, a platform for them to feel secure, to give out ideas. And in a way ECOWEEK is trying to do that. We really feel that young people have incredible potential and we saw what happened in Cairo, in Tahrir square, where young people could really bring change. Architects, with their education can really bring change.
So, part of what ECOWEEK is trying to do is not only educate on green buildings and sustainable design, but also to empower young people, to give them the strength to say that “Hey, I met Ivan Harbour or Ken Young or Shigeru Ban or Francis Kere at ECOWEEK. It’s so easy, I can go tomorrow to their offices and work with them, or I can ask them to collaborate for a project”. So, you give them this opportunity that the world is so close, that you can realize your dream very easily. That empowers them, it gives them strength to fight, to do something better.
Is the world financial crisis an opportunity for everyone to reconsider the ways that we design and construct the buildings and the urban environment?
Yes, crises are always a blessing in disguise, or an opportunity in disguise. This time again, from the crisis which is the end basically of the old, there will be the birth of the new. It’s very important for young people to get to the point where the old is ending and the new is starting, to be able to be there and influence and formulate the new, to make it as they want their future to be. That’s what’s happening right now, we are ending the past and we’re starting the future.
So, I believe that young architects have incredible potential to be part of the new, of this change. And we’re really trying hard to make this apparent, to make this clear. That ECOWEEK is not of course a sort of a movement or something that is trying to make change, although our motto is “Habits change, climate change”. So, we believe in change, but we’re not here to make that change.
We will help; we want to educate people and to empower people to make the change. And because basically a crisis means that what we have been doing so far is wrong. It’s like a couple; if they’re having a bad relationship they end up divorcing, which means that there’s a crisis in the family. Well, they can have a divorce but they can also work it out. They could go to psychologists; they can have somebody train them to treat each other better, to understand each other, to speak to each other. So what happened when there was a crisis they can decide to break and destroy whatever good there was and try to have something new hoping that it will be better. But, if they don’t change the new will be as bad as the old one.
So, at the point of the crisis we have to get better; we have to educate ourselves, we have to work harder, try harder. The same thing is happening in Greece. Greece will come out of the crisis but the thing is that if it wants to come out better, it has to become better. People have to get better. Education is one of the things that can get things better. People have to try harder, they have to work harder, and they have to educate themselves.
At the end, can you please provide your personal proposal for 10 buildings (constructed and visitable) which you think as the most important worldwide that someone must visit anyway?
The second place that I think is brilliant and I am fortunate to be here is Thessaloniki; the city with the incredible history of thousands of years whether this is Hellenistic, Roman, Byzantine, Ottoman And until the recent time Greek history. We have incredible architecture of monuments from Roman times, we have traditional buildings like the Rotunda which is like a Roman building but it’s actually a Greek church, an orthodox church. We have all these synagogues that used to be in Thessaloniki, about fifty of them. We have the Yeni tzami, we have Armenian churches; it’s an incredible place to walk and basically experience history. Of course we have the new plan by Hébrard which he connected the sea to the city and the whole think works together. So, Thessaloniki is definitely again a group of buildings that has to be experienced.
The third is Jerusalem; this is where I spend most of my time; the wall city which was destroyed and rebuild many times in layers. Two buildings that they are incredible are the Church of the Holy Sepulchre by Eleni, the mother of Consatntine. Basically, a basilica that was destroyed by the Muslims and then it was rebuilt by the Crusaders. But they didn’t have the resources that Eleni had so they built it in the quarter so they made a smaller building. There are parts of the building that you see the Walls; you see the arcade of Constantine’s time and you see the arcade of the Crusaders time; this is about a thousand year’s difference to the walls next to each other. It’s very powerful; the experience and the building. Then, you go down to the basement and you see the layers of Constantine’s stone, then you have some Byzantine building and then you have some Isla, and Crusader and Turkish building. So, you really read the building in layers; it’s incredible. It’s like the city of Jerusalem which you read them in layers.
And within the holy ground which used to be the Jewish temple is now the Dome of the Rock which is also an important site for the Muslims; it’s where the Mohamed basically left the earth. There is an incredible Rotonda, it’s a baptistery, it’s a Byzantine structure but covered in mosaics, it’s basically covered with mosaic scriptures, Islamic scriptures from the Koran.
The other place I would go is the US; I would go to New Haven. That’s where I studied, at Yale. I would really recommend that if somebody wants to travel to the US to go see Paul Rudolph’s School of Architecture; the whole building is exposed concrete. Basically, Rudolph designed the building inside out, because he had to design the form work so that what it comes out of it is perfect. And it’s perfect, it’s an incredible thing. Everything is concrete so you have to really design where the lights go and everything. It’s incredible. This is definitely a building for architects to go and see.
I would go to Barcelona, and of course mention Gaudi’s buildings; the crazy things he did become like the symbol of Barcelona; Sagrada Familia and of course the Casa Batlo, the Casa Mila and what he did for his patrons. The Park Güell which is also a brilliant garden city, a neighborhood that was never finished unfortunately but it’s there.
I would say Cyprus, I would go to Larnaca again as an experience. Sometimes, we here that Greece is like the meeting point between the East and the West. It’s not. The meeting point of East and West is Cyprus. That’s because everybody wanted to be in Cyprus, everybody wanted to conquer Cyprus, so if you go into the Old City of Larnaca on one hand you see the old buildings which look like Cairo, they look like Jerusalem. On the other hand you see European Architecture. Everything is boiling in there’ it’s really incredible.
I would go again to Italy. I would actually to the tomb that he built for the Brion family in San Vito which is one of the projects that I went to see when I was a student and it was one of those times that you don’t know what to do with yourself. It was so brilliant. It was just amazing; the detailing, the space, the water, the relationships, the light. Scarpa was a very modest person and inside this huge compound of the Brion family two walls were meating and there was a little part where you could just go through. And there was his tomb that he designed himself or his son designed it. But he was there too. It was incredible; that you had the Brion’s tomb and then you had the architect’s tomb. I would like to finish with that, I think I gave plenty of ideas for architects to travel.
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